Keep on truckin’

When I last posted here, I had just finished posting all of the Little Charo scripts, and mentioned that I wanted to spend a few more weeks studying that material, and then try to find another project to get involved in.

Well, at first, I thought that I wanted to try making a parallel Japanese and English script to the game Mother 3. But… this turned out to be waaaaaay more difficult and time consuming than I had imagined. While there is a complete Japanese script already posted online, the only complete English script online is cut up into bit and pieces and distributed across tons of different files, making it difficult to find any particular text that you want. I eventually came to the conclusion that simply playing through the English version of the game and transcribing it by hand would be the most efficient method. But that turned out to be far slower than I had ever anticipated. I also questioned the genuine usefulness of what I was trying to do, and finally decided to give up before wasting too much of my time on it.

From there, my thoughts turned to just playing the game in Japanese for my own benefit. I intended to play through first in English, then start over and go through the Japanese version with the Japanese scripts in hand. But… after playing through the game once in English, I realized that I really don’t like this game enough to play through it a second time. Meh.

After that, I decided to turn to anime. I came across Shirokuma Cafe a while back, and have really been wanting to go through it thoroughly with Subs2SRS. So I decided to give that a shot. But you know what? Trying to use Subs2SRS on that also turned out to be FAR more difficult than I had anticipated, at least at first. But, through my hours upon hours of trial and error, I have finally gotten to the point where I can Subs2SRS with ease!

Let’s talk about the issues I faced with Shirokuma Cafe for a moment. First, I wanted to create Anki cards that contained both the Japanese subtitles, English subtitles, image, and an audio clip. The fansub group Orphan put out some releases from Bluray sources that contain English subtitles. And then I find some releases from an apparently Chinese group called Kamigami which had released episodes with Japanese subtitles, but these were sourced from the TV broadcasts rather than Bluray, so right off the bat the two weren’t going to sync up perfectly. But, with a bit of effort, I was able to get them reasonably in sync with one another and proceeded to create my cards in Subs2SRS, and then began studying in Anki. I thought it was a bit odd that some of the subtitles had emoticons in them, but I thought “hmm, I guess the show is just trying to be cute.” I mean after all, the subtitles in the opening animation contain an emoticon, so it didn’t seem completely out of the question. I came across several words and phrases in that first episode that I couldn’t really figure out the meaning of, but I just persevered,  and then went on to episode two. As I began studying this episode in Anki, my concerns were growing too large to ignore. Not only did the subtitles seem to have EXCESSIVE amounts of emoticons, but they also seemed to contain a lot of typos. At this point I started asking around, and I discovered that the Japanese subtitles that I was using were not the official subtitles, but were actually transcriptions that the Chinese group had written! It was at this point that I went back to a lot of the words and phrases that hadn’t made sense to me, and I was able to see that the words had just been written down incorrectly! So this was a fine mess. Here I was trying to learn Japanese using subtitles that were filled with errors.

At this point, I noticed that there were other Japanese subtitles available on kitsunekko for Shirokuma Cafe. These looked like official subtitles, and did not contain any of the typos that plagued the other ones I had been using. But the problem is, these subtitles are timed to the original tv broadcast, with space left in for commercials and everything. So, they would require a bit of effort to sync up with either version of the episodes that I had. Also, for some reason or other, the subtitles for the first two episodes were in the .ass file format, while all the later episodes were in the .srt format. [As an interesting side note, I am the person who actually came up with the idea and specifications for the .ass subtitle format way back in the early 2000’s when I was a fansubber, but that’s a story for another day.]

So here we are, and I have English subtitles that are synced up perfectly to a bluray release, and I have Japanese captions which are apparently synced up to the original tv broadcast. And not only does the sync differ between them, but the line breaks are completely different as well. I spent a lot of time trying to get the Japanese captions synced up to the bluray video, but it appeared that this was not just a simple time shift that needed to be done. When I had one line synced up perfectly, another line would be several seconds off! It didn’t make any sense to me. In order to get things synced up properly, I really would have had to go through and completely re-time the episode, which would probably take around an hour or two. At this point, I thought “welllllll, I really don’t need the audio clips to be on my cards. Just the Japanese and English text is enough.” So, I just adjusted the sync as best I could to get the majority of the lines synced up, then I ran the script through Subtitle Edit to clean it up a bit and erase some of the closed captioning parts that I didn’t need. Then I dumped it into Subs2SRS, and it actually turned out pretty good. I was really surprised at how well it matched up the Japanese and English lines with each other. Not perfect, but there was only a small handful of lines that I needed to fix up manually.

So once again, I finally made it through the first two episodes, and moved on to episode 3. As you recall I mentioned above, starting with episode 3, the scripts were in the .srt file format. I didn’t think much of it at first, but once I began trying to sync it up with the episode, I was pleasantly surprised for the first time throughout this entire ordeal. Now, it seemed that the timing of the lines was much better, and with just a little time shifting (once at the beginning, and again at the point of the commercial break), almost every line syncs up to the audio almost perfectly! Episode 4 worked out the same way! At this point, it looks like I can Subs2SRS all of the remaining episodes with only about 5 minutes of prep work for each one! I could even turn the audio clips back on if I wanted to. But really, I don’t want to. I prefer doing my Anki reps without having to listen to anything. I do frequently listen to the full episode audio though, for listening practice.

All in all, Shirokuma Cafe is a really fun and cute anime, with mostly easy Japanese. After a rough start, I am now really enjoying studying with this show! I imagine that I might work my way through all 50 episodes, but its probably going to take me around 2 years if I continue at a rate of two weeks per episode. But, I think I might be able to speed up over time? Maybe? In any case, it solves the problem of me floundering around not knowing what to do. I have something here which I can study, enjoy, and actually learn a lot from!

Maybe I should post up my re-timed scripts here? I don’t know, maybe I’ll think about it. From episode 3 on, its really not that hard to fix them up yourself, if you wanted to study this anime. But I’ll consider it if anyone is interested. (update: you can find my re-timed episodes 3-6 in the comments below)

And in the meantime, what am I going to post here? Hmmm… maybe nothing. I mean, I’ll be busy studying Japanese, after all.

4 Month Progress Report

Four months ago, I started up this blog, with the intention of using it to somewhat hold myself accountable for making progress forward in my Japanese studies. In my first post, I explained how I felt about the current state of things at that time, and how I was planning to make progress.

So now, looking back on things four months later, where do I stand? Have I grown, or remained stagnant?

One of my primary goals was to get better at understanding normal Japanese conversations and being able to talk to people. I began using JapanesePod101.com as one of my primary learning tools. Starting out, I was listening around 35 hours per week. However, I have had to slow that down significantly for two reasons. For one, my job now requires a lot more mental concentration than it did at that time, and the level of difficulty of the audio lessons I am listening to now also require a much higher level of mental concentration than the easier lessons I was working through back then. And two, my anki reviews for the JapanesePod101.com material were growing a bit too large with the amount of material I was adding daily. So I am doing about 1-2 lessons per day on average now.

In terms of my listening comprehension ability, it has definitely increased from the level it was at before. Of course, it’s impossible to measure objectively, but I feel like my listening ability has improved somewhere between 50-100%. In terms of the JapanesePod101.com dialogs, I am able to understand “newbie” series dialogs effortlessly. I am able to understand “beginner” series dialogs as long as I focus. And I am able to mostly follow along with “lower intermediate” dialogs as long as I am listening intently, but still have difficulty catching everything at full speed.

In terms of my speaking ability, I feel like it has improved very little, if at all. This does not surprise me much, as I have not practiced it much.

For reading, I really feel like my reading speed and comprehension has improved a lot since I began going through Little Charo. I do a quick read through while playing the game, without worrying about full comprehension or looking up words. Then my intention is to go back later, and read through the scripts while trying to understand everything, and add useful words and phrases into anki. However, this part has proved to be considerably time consuming, and I have fallen behind in it. For longer episodes, I am considering only doing a thorough review of parts of the text that contain my frequently used vocabulary words. Then later on at some point in the future, I may come back through and do “full” readings of those episodes.

All in all, I’m mostly happy with the progress that I have made in the past four months. I have created around 1200 new anki cards in that time, which is about 10 per day. The one big thing that I am disappointed in is my writing/speaking ability. I really struggle with expressing myself in Japanese. I definitely have the ability to practice it, but I have chosen not too. It’s very time consuming for me, not to mention extremely mentally taxing, so if I focused more on that then I would definitely have to drop off either Little Charo or JapanesePod101.com. And I really don’t want to lose my momentum on those things. My plan is that once I finish one of those, then I will move on to focus heavily on writing practice at that time. I wonder if a well-rounded plan might be superior to focusing on just a couple of things? But it just feels like there is not enough time in the day nor enough motivation to do EVERYTHING.

A trip to Japan is coming up in August, so maybe I really ought to make the speaking/writing practice a priority right now. We’ll see.

About NihongoNoBaka.com

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Hi, let me introduce myself. I’m that guy.

You know, the guy who has been studying Japanese forever, but doesn’t have a whole lot to show for it. I’m sure that if you have engaged with other Japanese learners, you have probably met that guy before. Heck, maybe you are that guy too!

I began studying Japanese back around 2002. Except for a couple of years off around 2005-2006, I’ve supposedly been studying this whole time. I’ve taken years worth of classes, passed JLPT Level 3 (back when it only had 4 levels instead of 5), engaged in lots of different self-study methods, and even got a bachelor’s degree in Japanese language.

And yet, I still can’t hold a basic spoken conversation in Japanese.

But, I want to change that. I have plenty of motivations for learning Japanese, but I need to make sure I’m on the right track. Far too often, I get stuck in a rut of just doing the same things over and over, even when it’s not helping me to move forward. I need to keep myself honest, and make sure I am actually studying and learning using methods that will show real results.

This blog is going to be a sort of record of what I’m doing. I’ll talk about what I’m currently doing, what has been working for me, what hasn’t worked for me, my thoughts on language acquisition, and I may even post some useful study materials every now and then. Hopefully, taking the time to write this down in a public space will help me to stay on track and constantly reevaluate whether or not I’m making progress.

And just maybe, I might eventually be able to have a conversation or two in actual Japanese.